Petition to BFG

[Spazza]

I have absolutely no idea where to put this & as i browsed the threads it just didn't seem to quite fit anywhere

I have become aware recently that i am not the only one who is not happy about the recent layout making of some extremely offensive layouts made by the following player on the 29.8.08
stupid!!! - stupid!!! 2 - stupid!!! 3 - stupid!!! 4 - and stupid!!! 5

After some email conversation with another player who also feels the layouts are extremely inappropriate & then recieving an email from yet another player with the same concerns i decided to start a petition to BFG called - Offensive Layouts in Mahjong Towers Eternity - when i had written it up i sent it to a number of players i have regular contact with asking if they could add their name & country onto the end of the petition, in the hopes of getting at least 500 signatures of support to show BFG that enough IS enough!!!

That was yesturday - Today i recieved the petition back from 1 player who suggested i explain how to add name & country as they wern't aware of how to add theirs - my apologies to that player - i forget that some aren't sure of how to go about doing that sort of thing & secondly - also today - i have recieved an email concerned about a certain layout that appeared today - i had a rather busy day today tied up with appointments etc so had only gone online long enough to launch a file but had also browsed the launch screen long enough to also see a very threatening layout

Which in turn has brought me here -

First for an update - I have as recently as a half hour ago emailed Big Fish Games with the following -

[glow=red,2,300]Why is it when you click 'Report to Moderator' to remove Offensive &/or Threatening Layouts are they only removed from an individual players game & NOT the game site?? On the 29/08/2008 a number of foul mouthed totally inappropriate layouts were created by a player by the names of Stupid!!! Stupid!!! 2 Stupid!!! 3 Stupid!!! 4 & Stupid!!! 5. I downloaded their layouts & reported the worst of them to the Moderator only to find they hadn't been removed from the site ??
Today 4/9/2008 (New Zealand) i go into the game to find a very threatening layout created by Damien Krosz 3/8/08 - directed at another player of the game & i quote "YOU ARE DEAD CORKY" ??
When is something going to be done by Big Fish Games to remove these layouts or better still Disable these players ability to play?? I have children & foster children who also on occasions play this game & they should not have to be subject to this sort of pathetic disgusting behaviour!!!! No one should!!! Big Fish created this game & it is a "World Wide Game!!!!" & as far as i am concerned it is the responsibility of Big Fish to set some "Very Definate Boundaries" as to the use of it - which are far too long overdue!!!! I look forward to your response as soon as possible

Regards

Fiona 4/8/08[/glow]



Along with another player i agree that 1 voice is not enough, neither is 2 or 3 - hence the use of a petition

I have also heard & read many a time about BFG's inconsistency in relation to replys or their easy going way of not giving any real direct answer in relation to some questions to help a player get to some understandable resolutions - in my view - They Created This Game & regardless of what they say - They Know Exactly How It Works & i believe they can do a whole lot more than what they are trying so hard to get us to believe - eg: That they can't do somthing in particular or That they don't know Why some particular thing happens

If they can't do or don't know why - you would think after so many asking the same questions that they would be looking into things to find some descent answers to give people

As for the above layouts - the only time BFG will even look into layouts like this is if alot of people are reporting them to the Moderator (Report to Moderator button is under the Add to Favourites button in the game) Wow - wish i was the Moderator!!!!!!!! I'd be removing a whole heap of 1 person in particulars layouts along with every other name he hides under!!!!!!

OK, with all that said - i've decided to become BFG's right royal pain in the BUTT!!

Although i have already sent the above complaint to BFG - I also intend on continuing to send it with any updated offensive &/or threatening layouts UNTIL i get a descent answer &/or something is done about it

This Is A Game A Whole Heap Of Us Have Paid For & Own & is therefore OUR GAME TOO & its high time we stood up & made sure its being played in an Inoffensive & Non Threatening Manner!!

We've all done BFG a huge favour by purchasing & playing & it's time we got something back - a little thing called - RESPECT!!!!

RESPECT FOR OTHER PEOPLE & PLAYERS!!!!!!

What i would like is some support in doing so by making it a petition
so they can see that i am not the only 1 who wants to see somthing done - It will at some point be sent to BFG for them to see & in the meantime i will keep you updated as to communications from BFG in relation to it

If you would like to have your name added then please let me know by posting below & i will add it here -
(I hav added the 2 names of those who have already responded via email - Thank You guys - Hugz & Karmas to you both)

1 - Fiona - New Zealand
2. - Kim - California, USA
3. - Terry - Australia
4. - Marilyn - Washington, USA
5. - Rosita
6. - Ann #8 - Canada
7. - .Wanderlady. - Oregon, USA
8. - Katie - KY, USA
9 - Lisa - USA
10 - Sexy - USA
11 - Corky
12. - Judy - Ks, USA
13. - BarbAnn - Canada
14. - Lady K - Arizona USA
15. - Chrissiem - UK
16. - Janamanda2
17. - Koala Kutie - Mt Pleasant - Michican
18 - Da Love Rat - Mt Pleasant - Michican
19. - Doris - Canada
20. - Joy C - Nevada - USA
21. - Bammer
22. - Tennlady - USA
23. - Trixi - trixko:) - Bavaria/Germany
24. - Carol R. (brown eyes)-Michigan
25. - Barbara- South Dakota, USA
26. - Kris - Kristine.cu- Oregon
21. - 9Judy
22. - Mikey - Denver, USA
23. - Tina Marie
24. - Connie - Texas, US
25. - Giesela
26. - Rose, Mexico

[Marilyn]

I moved the post here, that even tho it is not "Fun" I thought it better placed in the game section of the forum.
Fiona, I have sent my own email to BFG, but feel free to add my name: Marilyn, Washington, USA
I'll look for the response BFG sent me last year re: the same thing, they will more than likely have the same answer this year.
Thanks and Karma Hugs to you!

[rositafresita]

I support the petition, the other night I was playing and that same Damina Krotz was writing offensive games against Lisa and Corky. I feel that this is highly inappropriate.

[ann]

I totally agree that some players are a royal pain in the butt, but (can't believe I am doing this), I think i have to defend BFG to some degree. Firsty, what I find offensive, you may not. If they were to ban a player outright, could that player not just create a new player, and keep at it? Some of these people are dying for attention, and by responding and reacting to what they are doing, only encourages them to do more. I think the best we can do is
totally ignore their nonsense, and eventually they will get tired and go away.
You are welcome to add me to the petition, (Ann #8, canada) but I really have my doubts that it will help.

[Tia]

Fiona, you can add .Wanderlady. Oregon, USA to the list. This has happened so much over the years and I know folks have complained to BFG before. I think the only way to really stop the offenders or at least make it harder for them is to perhaps lock out their IP address or something. I know BFG has a way to do it but I also think they are reluctant to do so. That Damien player has so many names already.. I think he is also the Daniel Q players too. It gets so old....

[Marilyn]

From BFG:
"Hi Marilyn,

Thank you for being so on top of this. It is nice to see someone who really cares about the gaming environment.

We have not forgotten about making it more difficult for those who like to push the limits.

I do have some good news; we hope to put in a profanity filter very soon to block those who attempt to add nasty names.

I actually monitor the game community and I understand how effective filters can be. There sadly will always be those who will go around the censor by using I've edited this portion out so not to give the player more ideas. We are trying our best to minimize this but because of the medium we are in; there is no system that is foolproof.

We will continue to try to improve this situation and again I thank you for your diligence in reporting this issue.

Have a great day!

ION_Kaye
Online Support Lead,
Online Game Community"

I'll let you know as I get any updates.

[Marilyn]

Today's update from BFG at 3:50:

"Mi Marilyn -
I have sent it to the head of Business Operations and it will not fall on deaf ears.
Paul"

As always, I'll keep you all updated.
Hugs to ya!!

[Katie]

Hi, Marilyn, Please add me to the list, Katie, KY, USA. I have reported to the moderator several times the very offensive layouts by Stupid.

I was shocked at the titles of his layouts. I couldn't believe that a player would be allowed to use such language on this type of game site.

I also believe BFG can, and should, do something about it.

[Marilyn]

Good for you Katie and reporting it to the Moderator.
The more players reporting it the better.
Unfortunately this does not mean the LO will necessarily be removed from the game.
I looked up a few of the LOs that I reported last year, and I could still pull most of them up.
As Ann said, players just change their names and continue on.
Hopefully new advances are being made and BFG will be able to put in place better profanity filters.
As I hear more, I'll let you all know.
Karma Hug for reporting it.
Ooooooops, Ann, Karma Hug to you too, I may have accidently missed you this AM. Sorry.

[Spazza]

Sept 4, 2008 9:55:17 GMT -8 Marilyn said:

I moved the post here, that even tho it is not "Fun" I thought it better placed in the game section of the forum.
Fiona, I have sent my own email to BFG, but feel free to add my name: Marilyn, Washington, USA
I'll look for the response BFG sent me last year re: the same thing, they will more than likely have the same answer this year.
Thanks and Karma Hugs to you!

Marilyn,

Hopefully they will get tired of the same answer as much as we are tired of these players

[Spazza]

Sept 4, 2008 10:10:36 GMT -8 @rositafresita said:

I support the petition, the other night I was playing and that same Damina Krotz was writing offensive games against Lisa and Corky. I feel that this is highly inappropriate.

Rosita

I agree with you there Rosita

[Spazza]

Sept 4, 2008 10:31:41 GMT -8 @ann said:

I totally agree that some players are a royal pain in the butt, but (can't believe I am doing this), I think i have to defend BFG to some degree. Firsty, what I find offensive, you may not. If they were to ban a player outright, could that player not just create a new player, and keep at it? Some of these people are dying for attention, and by responding and reacting to what they are doing, only encourages them to do more. I think the best we can do is
totally ignore their nonsense, and eventually they will get tired and go away.
You are welcome to add me to the petition, (Ann #8, canada) but I really have my doubts that it will help.

Ann

I hear what yr saying Ann but i am also very aware that thr is a large number of a much younger generation out thr playing Mte too & BF will no doubt be aware of that - it is a family game - not a 16+ rated game

Yes the option of creating a new player is thr but if offending players continualy have to have lo's removed wen theyve been reported to moderator due to this type of content then wot other option is thr? I have just been having a read of Marilyns post on the filtering side of things from BFG - i am wrapt to hear of the possibility of a profanity filter being put in place - thr should have been one in place a long time ago, after all the game picks up lo's if the tiles arn't placed properly but it cant pick up lo's as 'inappropriate content' if a lo is named as such?? To me, thats pretty bizarre. Yes thr are also backdoor ways of getting lo's to launch - som of whom ive come across & grinned at the cleverness of thm, but the impact is a whole lot different

Ignoring them is good too, i agree, but the lenghths 'Stupid!!!' went to was totally innapropriate.
The corky lo is totally out of line, & that particular player does keep coming back & has shown under his own alias players that he CAN be a civil player - my view of his Damien Krosz player is he has a major prob with 2 of the other players & he gets very personal. I dont even like to think of the impact it has on the 2 of them let alone any of us, if thats the case he shouldnt play. In my view its getting waaay beyond the norm & its extremely disruptive & uncalled for, for anyone who plays

Thank you so much for pointing out these things Ann, its evryones insights & comments that may just make the difference in the long run & helps raise many questions

Big Hugz to you

[Spazza]

Sept 4, 2008 11:14:42 GMT -8 Tia said:

Fiona, you can add .Wanderlady. Oregon, USA to the list. This has happened so much over the years and I know folks have complained to BFG before. I think the only way to really stop the offenders or at least make it harder for them is to perhaps lock out their IP address or something. I know BFG has a way to do it but I also think they are reluctant to do so. That Damien player has so many names already.. I think he is also the Daniel Q players too. It gets so old....

Thank You Tia

[Spazza]

Sept 4, 2008 22:22:40 GMT -8 Katie said:

Hi, Marilyn, Please add me to the list, Katie, KY, USA. I have reported to the moderator several times the very offensive layouts by Stupid.

I was shocked at the titles of his layouts. I couldn't believe that a player would be allowed to use such language on this type of game site.

I also believe BFG can, and should, do something about it.

Thank you Katie

[Spazza]

Sept 4, 2008 15:42:08 GMT -8 Marilyn said:

Today's update from BFG at 3:50:

"Mi Marilyn -
I have sent it to the head of Business Operations and it will not fall on deaf ears.
Paul"

As always, I'll keep you all updated.
Hugs to ya!!

WOW Marilyn,

This is a grt response

HUGZ!!!